'Mobile nature reserves' could save species

So it's come to this, pity. Reminds me of an old sci-fi movie, ."Mobile nature reserves" are sent off into space, with Joan Baez singing some hippe song, Bruce Dern, playing a psycho scientist, and the original "cute" robots that George Lucas emulated. It sounds like techno pie-in-the-sky, like Regan's "Star Wars" (SDI). What a waste of money, time and resources. Can't we just simply get a grip on the exponential human population growth instead?

Can't we just simply get a grip on the exponential human population growth instead? Where did you get that malthusian idea from? most of the world's human population is in decline or will be in decline soon. I think we talked about this before. edit - http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2010/03/the-overpopulation-myth/

So it's come to this, pity. "Mobile nature reserves" In a sense we already have them - on land. Making hunting illegal at certain times of year is, in effect, creating a temporary reserve. In many western states, the Division of Wildlife has the authority to regulate the hunt, controlling bag limits and even closing some areas to all hunting for anywhere from a season to a decade. There's no reason this couldn't be applied to the sea. Doug

Where did you get that malthusian idea from? Malthus' exponential growth idea used to be taught in biology classes. Some antiquated textbooks still have it. That model has been superceded by something resembling the logistic growth model - sort of. No model is accurate much beyond twenty years. The problem is in predicting changes in birth rates - too many, mostly social, variables impact that. Once they're born, it's fairly easy to predict how many will die and when. most of the world's human population is in decline or will be in decline soon. I think we talked about this before. Indeed we d... [More]

Where did you get that malthusian idea from? most of the world's human population is in decline or will be in decline soon. I think we talked about this before. edit - http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2010/03/the-overpopulation-myth/ I'm not sure I believe the numbers in your link. Here are the numbers. Forty years ago, the average woman had between five and six kids. Now she has 2.6. This is getting close to the replacement level which, allowing for girls who don’t make it to adulthood, is around 2.3 I read that as saying the average amount of children a woman was having in 1970 was 5-6. M... [More]

Where did you get that malthusian idea from? most of the world's human population is in decline or will be in decline soon. I think we talked about this before. Yes we probably did, and I still stand behind the demographics of the UN, up to a point. You're right, the West has seen a sharp decline in birth rates due to education, egalitarianism, contraceptives and abortions. This is not the case for many third world countries; "Between 2005 and 2050, the populations of Afghanistan, Burundi, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Niger, Timor-Leste and Uganda are projected... [More]

its not just the west that is declining, it is most countries except the poorest and generally black african countries. population will rise for the next few decades and will then start to decrease. poverty and poor education are the main factors that lead to increase in population. contraceptives are useless if your means of survival requires a large family. the green movement and the aristocratic elite of the west who are the ones mainly claiming there are too many people, want to deindustrialise the west which will lead to poverty which would likely reverse the decline in population in the ... [More]

its not just the west that is declining, it is most countries except the poorest and generally black african countries. population will rise for the next few decades and will then start to decrease. poverty and poor education are the main factors that lead to increase in population. contraceptives are useless if your means of survival requires a large family. the green movement and the aristocratic elite of the west who are the ones mainly claiming there are too many people, want to deindustrialise the west which will lead to poverty which would likely reverse the decline in population in the ... [More]

would that really save them though? isnt it just another term of enslavement? I just wanna be around to see Charlton Heston yelling "Soilent Green is people!!" lol